thought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..
Quote from James Mixon:
Old Navy;The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference....Richard Dawkins
Aye, I am aware that some hold this belief. I understand why such belief is appealing.
For myself, The Word is Truth. I has been confirmed by faith.
thought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..
Quotes from Unsure:
If you are attributing complexity to a creator, ok, but then what is stopping another religion from being the correct one and yours being wrong?
To rephrase, what is stopping Zeus from being the creator of this complexity and not Jesus?
Good questions. We must examine the record, such as it exists, to get some idea. Who in the record makes the claim?
Whoever created what we see and enjoy in all its incredible diversity and detail was truly a genius. For myself, I have come to believe in The Father and The Son because of the evidence which abounds. But certainly not the Father and Son which the WTBorg Inc. have shown us by their "preaching" and their actions. The Fruitage of the Holy Spirit does not reside in a Cult.
hello to all, so i did want to talk about this topic because i think it is very important to me.
i have a grandfather who faded several decades ago.
he occasionally attends an assembly and the memorial but no longer attends meetings or goes on field service.
Quote from Finkelstein:
I've heard awful stories of adolescents who were still living with their parents be made out as big anti JWS which resulted in their parents forcing them out the home.
This isn't possible in California unless the head of the household obtains an "eviction" through the Court. Evictions are granted only for good reason. Unless the adolescent is aware that they're protected by the law they may not press the issue. 911 calls can be very helpful for an adolescent, or any other family member, who is being forced from their home by family.
i met with a jw today and they showed me a picture of the new style kh build.
the building was located in a ***strip mall**** in florida.
i'm always amazed (and disgusted) at the new and inventive ways they think of expanding their real estate holdings.. along that vein...i recently discovered this: .
Quote from Vidiot:
Slumming it, Evangelical Christendom-style...
Astute observation! The WTBorg Inc. must be greatly concerned about their dwindling appeal and the resurgence of Evangelical Christendom which is growing by leaps and bounds.
Quote from the Article:
Evangelical Christianity is “the fastest-growing faith movement in the world,” boasting as many as “700 million believers” and adding 50,000 new adherents daily, with each new “believer” representing another potential advocate for Israel, Parsons said.
The Battle for the Big Bucks must go on!
i know that i am not by any means the first person to take note of this article, but today i finally got around to reading it.
i quickly found the now infamous line "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
" in the interest of fairness, however, i decided to finish the paragraph, which led me to finish the lesson.
The group of men who have given themselves the name "The Governing Body" have sinned and they cannot publicly admit it. They know without any doubt that such an admission would be the end of The Cult and their own deceitful existence. It does seem that they are aware, however, that the spirit which leads them is not The Holy Spirit. That alone should awaken a sizable segment of the Corporate JDub "Subject" Persons. Unfortunately, their eyes have been skillfully closed and their ears soundly stopped.
i'm sure i am not the only one to have heard this come out of the mouths of my loved ones.
it's a very painful thing to hear, especially when it comes from the people like your own parents/family.
even after i've been told that, they would say "we'll just continue life without you.
Better add this too: The Day of Judgment will be a good thing. A very good thing.
It is then that we will discover the depth of Love that we have wondered about.
i'm sure i am not the only one to have heard this come out of the mouths of my loved ones.
it's a very painful thing to hear, especially when it comes from the people like your own parents/family.
even after i've been told that, they would say "we'll just continue life without you.
To get the "iron grip" on membership the WTBorg Cult Inc. focuses on such false warnings with intensity. All who fall into the trap of "believing" the lies unwittingly submits to their militant controls and lives a horrible, fear filled existence. It is a truly Sick Society.
If JDubs only took the time to study The Word with an uncluttered mind they would see with their own eyes that ALL will be Saved, none will be forgotten. Even the Old Adversary himself. The Promised Resurrection will be Trillions of Departed Souls. As we are made whole and good by the refining fire of the Lake of Fire we will in time become as we were intended to be. The End of this story is a long, long way off into the future. As eons go by we'll eventually look back upon our trials and tribulations in this present lifetime as a faint memory.
The WTBorg Cult Inc. is stuck in some old false doctrine of some particularly fearful sects of early Christendom. It suits their purposes.
l came to this conclusion based on the fact that humans are imperfect living in an imperfect world.the bible was written by imperfect human hands and is impossible to interpret with 100% accuracy.religion is man made to help control the masses..
Brings to mind the refrain from the Billy Currington song:
"God is great, Beer is good and People are crazy..."
I agree with the sentiment that there is no true religion. Everything that is good in this World seems to have been corrupted and made dirty. None of the "religions" have much Truth as they have become hierarchies of men who promote the dogma of men.
As I reflect upon "The Way" that was shown us by the Son of Man it occurs that it was never intended to become a "religion" under the control of some man made organization. I believe, instead, it was intended to be a Way of Living where each man and woman does his/her best to develop Love and Goodness. We seem to be born with a longing for peace and harmony but it is lost too quickly. As toddlers we adopt the behaviors we find in our familial environment. We are corrupted from the beginning or our lives.
so continuing my review of the current bull shit my family in this cult are subjected to i found this article about professor rajesh kalaria, a jw since 1973 and a scientist who has studied the human brain for 40 years (hmm... so he converted into this cult very early in his career it seems).anyway i also found this jw broadcasting piece about him where he says:.
“and brain is what we are; what i am, what you are.
no brain, no life.
Quote from Steve2:
Has he studied how the human brain makes sense of life when trapped in a cult?
Very good question. I believe he has since he addresses cult techniques.
Our World today is an array of Cults within Cults. The art of Mind Control is well developed and the techniques are used daily by government and mainstreammedia to construct the "fake reality" in which we find ourselves. The Matrix is under construction and well along the way to being completed.
so continuing my review of the current bull shit my family in this cult are subjected to i found this article about professor rajesh kalaria, a jw since 1973 and a scientist who has studied the human brain for 40 years (hmm... so he converted into this cult very early in his career it seems).anyway i also found this jw broadcasting piece about him where he says:.
“and brain is what we are; what i am, what you are.
no brain, no life.
An interesting article which sheds some light on the enigma called "consciousness."
Does "Science" have the ability to find "Truth" when it challenges a foundational belief?
